Are you a financial lost cause?

what actions do you take or avoid that impact your financial well-being now and in the future?

They’re Sunk by Jonathan Clements

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AUTHOR: Jonathan Clements on 7/08/2024

I doubt there are any HumbleDollar readers who buy into the dozen notions listed below. But trust me: There are plenty of folks who do.

Trying to play financial coach to friends or family members? You’ve got your work cut out for you if:

  • They imagine they can achieve financial freedom without living well below their means.
  • They believe their car—or any other possession, for that matter—is an investment.
  • They think it’s easy to beat the stock market averages.
  • They rack up credit-card charges without considering how they’ll pay off the resulting card balance.
  • They think Wall Street is on their side.
  • They fail to fund a 401(k) plan with an employer match.
  • They haven’t bothered planning their estate because there’ll be plenty of time later.
  • They assume the safest option is to keep everything in cash investments.
  • They see financial peril coming—a big home repair, the need for a new car, a possible layoff—and yet they don’t immediately start prepping their finances.
  • They think tax deductions are financial freebies.
  • They buy their investments from their insurance agent.
  • They imagine they can wait until their 50s to start saving for retirement.

Any other signs that folks are likely a financial lost cause? And is there any way to wake them up from their money stupor?

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Here is an example of one of the comments:

I just golfed yesterday with two guys in their early 30’s. During the round they told me about their recent 2 week trip to Europe (3 cities) and the golf courses they played in Ireland for approx $200 Euro’s each. Their adventures at the blackjack table, nightclubs and the 5star Michelin restaurants they dined at.

After the round they discussed the other countries they wanted to visit and if they should go to a friends wedding in Italy. 

Then in the next breath, one of them says that their generation has been screwed by the older generation and they will never be able to catch up. He complained that he could not afford a house even though he makes good money.

By conservative estimates he probably just blew 10K or more on a two week trip… could this not be used towards a house lol?

My wife and I just marvel at the behaviour and attitudes we encounter.. we would never have considered a trip like that till our house was paid off etc etc, etc.

7 comments

  1. The immaturity and narcissism of such young people is universal. Another obstacle is student debt, for those who borrowed to fund third-level education. It consumes large sums that could be set aside in savings.

    I delayed the 401k side until I had paid off my house. That practice may have cost me up to half the accrual. There was of course the interest saved on the mortgage

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  2. After working for 50+ years, 45+ years in corporate employee benefits, 17 different employers (including four Fortune 500 employers), and encountering tens of thousands of workers over that period of time, I’ve found that there is no one best way to achieve financial resilience, or adequate retirement preparation – and, while I don’t envy those two young golfers and the decisions they made, I made different choices and I don’t regret those I made.

    I am reasonably confident they won’t regret their choices, as those are experiences that may, in fact last a lifetime, paying “memory dividends” – especially once they are so old that swinging a golf club is no longer fun. I relive and enjoy just as much the “jokes” and “stumbles” that are part of my golf game, playing crummy courses that match my skill level with my older brother Joe, and younger brothers Jim and Mike … especially Jim (who was once a much better golfer, but who no longer plays due to physical issues) … the exploding golf ball, the broken ankle, Jim’s $20 bet where I chipped up on to the green, only to have the ball run away from the hole, but then, magically, it hit my Brother Mike’s ball already on the green and it careened into the cup (a “Snowman”)!

    I do worry about sentiments like: “… their generation has been screwed by the older generation and they will never be able to catch up. …” As a Baby Boomer, I feel the same way, but it wasn’t the older generation, the Silents or the Greatest Generation to blame, it was (and is, and continues to be a la Biden and Trump) the politicians who spent tons of money that must be collected from future taxpayers (including me, yesterday, today AND tomorrow, far in excess of any “entitlements” I will ever receive) to buy votes:

    • Medicaid expansion (Obama, Trump, Biden), where at one time, in less than 15 years, we more than doubled the number covered by taxpayer-funded coverage (without explicit, dedicated new funding … a significant component of the $1.5 – $2+ Trillion in annual deficits),
    • Social Security expansion (Roosevelt, Truman, Johnson, Carter), only to run it into a ditch and force Reagan to make changes and cutbacks once the trust funds were all but exhausted,
    • Medicare (Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter) failing to accumulate sufficient assets for Part A and failing to accumulate any assets for Part B, then funding Part A in such a way that Congress could “invest” the trust fund monies to buy more votes and send the bill to future taxpayers, forcing Reagan, Obama, Biden to make changes (such as cutting back provider reimbursements to shift expenses to others whose health coverage doesn’t “benefit” from price controls, to push HI trust exhaustion from 1983 to 2026, and more recently, from 2026 to 2036),
    • And the most obvious, and egregious violation, Bush II with the addition of Medicare Part D to buy votes, with no, absolutely no, identified additional revenue.

    I’m not at all surprised to see that younger individuals, including the golfers, feel they have been screwed. As a taxpayer, still working, I’m also screwed, financially.

    Whether or not you adequately prepared for retirement, I hope the golfers, all of you, have as many and as varied and enjoyable “outcomes” that pay “memory dividends” for as long as you live … I have many myself, and by memorializing family stories and experiences as a gift for my children, I’m hoping the dividends they receive, along with pictures, will continue for the rest of their lives.

    I am blessed from a decision my Grandmother Marie made when she left Slovakia, got on a boat in Bremen, and brought my mom, Mary, a baby of 7 months, to America back in 1925 … the best legacy, one of incalculable value, the best gift, ever.

    I will never forget the wonder on my two children’s faces, then ages 9 and 6, when we toured Ellis Island, did the Park Service tour on the perils of immigration, saw Marie and Mary’s names on the Wall of Fame … making a memory that will pay them an invaluable dividend for maybe a hundred years.

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    1. “memory dividends”…

      “Dad, you’ve told that story a hundred times.”

      Dad: “Yeah, but I try to make it a little better each time.”

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  3. Not enough info to criticize the young golfers. Life is to be savored as you go along and the enjoyment of a trip they described just may be worth a lot more to them than adding a few more dollars to an account somewhere.

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    1. Plus what Al said July 9 about all that stuff in the walk in closets. “All that stuff” meant jobs for people.

      My Dad said credit is what made America great. Imagine if no on could buy a car until they saved up the cash.

      Your wasteful spending is my bread and butter.

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