Are you retired with your income largely from a 401k or IRA (plus Social Security)?

I am one of those fortunate Americans with a traditional pension. That means I have a steady monthly income in addition to Social Security. I don’t know what it is like to rely on a pool of money that must be invested and used prudently in order to provide adequate current income and last for a lifetime, the length of which is unknown. 

If you are one of those Americans who must rely on your accumulated savings for a major portion of your retirement, how are you doing? What do you worry about most? Are you comfortable you have a plan and adequate resources for a comfortable retirement? What financial surprises have you encountered. 

If you will be facing this type of retirement in the future, what are your concerns? 

Please share your experiences via a comment to this blog post. 

8 comments

  1. All of our retirements funds are in IRA’s. I retired from a large multinational oil company at age 50 thirteen years ago and then I taught computer science at a Christian university for the next 8 years. About 10 years ago I took my small pension as a lump sum — the lump sum was a little over $300K. During my working years, we also saved the maximum amount in a 401K account. When I worked for the oil company, all of my 401K was in my company’s stock which I now realize was risky. It did work out well for us though as we have over $2.5 million in the IRA’s which contain funds transferred from the 401K plus the pension lump sum. I plan to wait until age 70 to start Social Security (wife to start spousal IRA at age 66) and hers and my annual SS will be over $50K. The key to a financially successful retirement is to save as much as possible — live below your means while you are earning (we still live below our means but we did recently splurge on a brand new car).

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    1. Thank you for your comment. It sure looks like you are in good shape. I think the only thing I would have done differently is to keep the vested pension and start it as an annuity at age 65. That would provide a guaranteed income along with SS. That would have gotten you about $1700 a month for life. On the other hand you had the $300k in your wallet.

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  2. Well, Mr. Quinn, since you asked: My father and his brother built our house when I was about five years of age (1950’s) and a family friend owned the local small town lumberyard which became my playground. I thereby learned building materials, wood working, carpentry and construction. After earning a degree in Political Science from a Big Ten University, I tried to work as a carpenter and to save enough money for graduate school in Michigan. With a new baby, that didn’t work out so well. Outdoor carpentry in Michigan during the winter is not pleasant, so I applied for a job with a company that was then The Home Depot of the 1960’s. Over the course of about 35 years I progressed from management trainee to Vice President. I bought and sold building materials commodities for the company and day traded stock options for my own account. Given the vagaries of the commodity markets, my annual income often reached six figures. During those years, “vacations” meant DIY home improvement projects on a large scale and we relocated about six times. Often profiting from selling and buying homes. I was hired just before upper management incompetence forced them to discontinue the company’s pension program. I invested every possible penny in their 401K program and rode the bull market late in the past century. The lady that managed that company’s 401K program was then with UBS and has become my personal financial advisor. She is now with Merrill Lynch (by her own choosing) and manages my financial affairs to this date. By my own choosing, I was 100% in low interest CD’s during Dumbya’s recession and did not lose a dime – even gained a few dollars. For the past ten years of a very difficult investment environment, my financial advisor has transferred $2K/Mo. to my checking account each month and my balance with her has continued to grow. We worked hard, we sacrificed and we planned ahead and now we have no worries whatsoever.

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    1. I forgot to mention that we are obviously also benefiting from a very small monthly pension, Social Security and Medicare which will continue unless and until the malicious and hateful Republicans take over the congress and the oval office. I have a lot of time and money that I will spend to help insure that will never happen.

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    2. Thank you for sharing Mr Wilson. Given your story (worked hard, sacrificed, planned ahead) I sure don’t understand your current political posture. Those qualities are all I would expect from anyone which sadly is not the case, but that’s another matter.

      Interesting that you invested in CDs as opposed to at least a chunk in equities which as you know had one heck of a run up in the last five years. Most people who got hurt in their 401k sold at the bottom, lost a lot of money and missed out on the bull market.

      I wouldn’t worry about Republicans or anyone else taking away Social Security. In any case, no proposal ever mentioned affected current recipients. However, sooner or later our or the next generation or both is going to have to contribute in some manner to fix the current system to sustain it.

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  3. We are not retired yet. My husband will retire in Dec. and I will in 1 more year. We will rely on Social Security and our Ira. We started putting money into an IRA in our twenties, when they first began. Back then we were getting 12% interest hard to believe. We were young didn’t have much money, saved as much as we could at 12% interest. Over the years the interest rate went down down down to where we are now at 2.9%. After our children finished college interest rates were at 5%. With the money we had at that time we thought we could retire at 62 live off the 5% interest in the IRA plus SS. We also thought during the span from when our children finished college to retirement we would be able to save at least as much if not more than the yearly amount we had in the past. Then the recession hit my husbands business and the interest rates went down down down. Income went down, insurances went up, gas went up. The amount we were able to put into our IRA savings went down and down and last year there wasn’t any extra income in fact we had to take money out of savings. Even when you plan and think you are doing ok you never have control over everything. Our house was paid off but the equity that was our security blanket ( always thought we could sell the house in retirement if we ran out of money) dwindled. . So we will retire on our IRA and social security and it is worrisome. We are still hoping that most of our expenses will be covered by our SS and the interest on the IRA. We estimate how much we can take out each year for expenses if we had to with the expectations of living another 25 years before running out of money. You can plan but you never know what can wipe your savings out. Retirement isn’t what we thought it would be but we are still looking forward to it (more time with grandbabies) . In fact in many ways we feel we are lucky compared to others in our industry. We know people hurt by this recession who have lost their houses, they can’t send their children to college, haven’t been able to save for retirement, have no savings or lost savings, couldn’t afford health insurance and have to pay off medical bills. Others who may have to find new careers at 50+ years old. We were lucky enough to have some savings, an IRA, a house paid for, children’s college paid for and close enough to retirement to not have to start over again.

    My dad had a pension. He was a Union worker along with my mom ( sweat shop worker). He started working in a dye house at 16, built planes, was a furrier and a business owner He often held two or three jobs at a time. He worked hard but he loved work. He retired with 3 pensions and a pension from my mom’s job she died at 61. At 64 years old the business he worked for closed down (moved overseas). He walked into a dye house and got a job on the spot even though he hadn’t worked in a dye house for decades.. He was paid enough money to pay his bills until he retired 3 years later. He lived a good retirement life on social security and his pension. Although the pension never increased over the years his social security and his pensions gave him enough money to pay his bills and still have money left over at the end of the month to save. It was his security. He knew every month that money would be coming no matter what. He knew his everyday bills would be paid. His savings he accumulated in life were for extra good times and emergencies. If he lost all his savings he knew he still had social security and a pension to pay all his bills. He lived to 88.

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    1. Thank you for taking time to write this. Your story sounds familiar regarding IRA and home equity. You seem to focus on interest in your IRA. Does that imply you are largely invested in fixed income funds as opposed to stocks? Stocks have had tremendous gains in the last five years; far higher than 5% and in most areas house prices have recovered somewhat.

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