Dishonesty about Social Security

After winning the Iowa caucuses Monday, Mr. Trump replayed a golden oldie of a campaign pledge: “We’re also going to pay off the national debt. It’s about time.” He said the same thing in 2016, before he added about $8 trillion to the tab. Roughly half of that was Covid relief, so perhaps voters grade him on a curve. Less forgivable is that he’s now playing for the Democrats on entitlements.

“Americans were promised a secure retirement. Nikki Haley’s plan ends that,” says the grim narrator of a Trump advertisement playing in New Hampshire. A new radio spot adds: “Year after year, you paid into Social Security. Now Nikki Haley wants to keep you from collecting what’s yours.” The Trump campaign alleges Ms. Haley would cut benefits “for 82 percent of Americans.”

This is dishonest. Social Security is running out of money, and doing nothing will result in a 23% cut to benefits within a decade. The retirement trust fund, according to the latest report, will be depleted in 2033, at which point the incoming cash “will be sufficient to pay 77 percent of scheduled benefits.” Does Mr. Trump have any plan to prevent this outcome in only nine years? Nope.

Ms. Haley hasn’t issued a detailed proposal, but what she says doesn’t fit Mr. Trump’s narrative. “I will protect those receiving Social Security and Medicare—that’s a promise,” she said last fall. “We’ll keep these programs the same for anyone who’s in their 40s, 50s, 60s, or older, period.”

Then she added that she would “limit benefits on the wealthy” and “raise the retirement age only for younger people who are just entering the system. Americans are living 15 years longer than they were in the ’30s. If we don’t get out of this 20th-century mindset, Social Security and Medicare won’t survive.”

Whatever Mr. Trump might say about getting the debt under control, it won’t happen without changes to these programs. Social Security was 19% of total federal outlays in 2022. Medicare was 12% and Medicaid 9%. The category of “other means tested entitlements” was another 10%. Add those up, and they’re half of federal spending. As social programs keep growing, they crowd out everything that’s counted as “discretionary,” including national defense, which was 12%.

Excerpts from Wall Street Journal Editorial Board 1-19-24

There is a lot dishonest going on here‼️

There is no reason, none, to cut Social Security benefits.

Limiting benefits for the wealthy sounds good, what benefits? Benefits are already limited for the wealthy and the benefit formula works in favor of lower earning Americans. Social Security is not supposed to be a welfare program. It is designed to be self sustaining and thus not a deficit concern. Keep it that way.

Let’s be honest

Let’s be clear…

The Social Security trust is an accounting tool, there are no actual isolated funds in a lock box or anywhere else. That does not mean it isn’t secure.

Revenue into the trust comes from three basic sources, payroll taxes, income taxes on a portion of the Social Security benefit which is taxable income and interest paid by the federal government on the treasury bonds held by the trust.

General revenue is not used to fund Social Security benefits.

Some people say that because the government pays interest to the trust those payments are part of the deficit. That is very misleading.

When there was a surplus of revenue into the trust, the excess was invested in special interest paying treasury bonds [since the very beginning of Social Security]. The funds the government received by selling those bonds was used for general government expenses just as is the case if you buy a bond or another country buys US debt.

There is no longer a surplus going into the trust. Instead the treasury bonds must be redeemed to pay full benefits.

When all those bonds are redeemed around 2033, incoming revenue from other sources will be insufficient to pay 100% of earned benefits.

One thing should be obvious, the way to replenish the trust and sustain full benefits is to increase revenue, not reduce benefits, but politicians rather not tell you that. Instead they propose cuts that appear to not affect anyone in the here and now.

That is dishonest.

Social Security will only add to the deficit if general revenue is used to pay the trust shortfall. There is no reason – and it’s dangerous – to let this happen.

The cost of redeeming those bonds may add to the deficit, but that has nothing to do with Social Security. That would be the case if another entity redeemed its U.S. bonds. And if the bonds had not been sold to the SS Trust, similar bonds would have had to be sold to investors – to other countries – China and Japan – in order to obtain the funds to run the government. Last year the federal government paid $659 billion in interest on its debt. And is currently spending $1.8 trillion more a year than its revenue. The Treasury bonds earned the SS Trust $66 billion.

If the full retirement age is raised to 69, the solvency of the trust is only extended two years.

On the other hand if the combined – worker/employer – payroll tax were raised from 12.4% to 14.4%, the trust is good until 2072. That’s about ten dollars a week for the average worker to have a more secure retirement and other benefits.

Don’t like that, put most of the increase on employers-1.5% vs .5% on workers for example.

Minor and gradual changes along the way would easily keep things going beyond 2072.

13 comments

  1. It’s not just about your grandma.

    “We investigate how flows in and out of Social Security (OASI) and Social Security Disability Insurance, 401(k) plans, unemployment insurance, Medicare, and the federal income tax react to changes in the output gap.”

    “The results show that the Social Security program acts as an automatic stabilizer, as do the disability program, the unemployment compensation program, Medicare, and income tax.”

    SCHWARTZ CENTER FOR
    ECONOMIC POLICY ANALYSIS

    Proven by statistics, but it should be common sense. In a recession, people lose jobs, they pay fewer taxes and cut living expenses, which result in more jobs lost, etc., etc., etc., in a downward spiral. Meanwhile, retirees can keep paying rent, buying groceries, etc., stabilizing and limiting the ups and downs.
    Like public education, not just a benefit for the student, but for society as a whole, providing a capable workforce. Whomever is trying to eliminate or limit SS should keep this in mind.

    Ironically, the same does not apply to 401(k) plans, according to the same study, considering outputs –and– inputs, they are countercyclical, and de-stabilizing.

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  2. Confused…if the present president “added” 14 million NEW jobs, that would be 14 million workers and empowers paying into ss…guess all that extra revenue is going to the illegal migrants….

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    1. That’s a rather silly remark. No President adds jobs, the economy does and no president has a significant effect on the economy. There is no extra revenue for SS as worker taxes are already part of the 30 actuarial projects and the problem is the ratio of workers paying to the seniors collecting benefits. The reality is that the millions of illegal immigrants here provide a net economic gain in terms of the necessary work they perform, the purchases they make and the taxes they pay, including billions into the Social Security Trust with no ability to collect future benefits.

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      1. CBS news recently reported that the Biden Admin has paroled over 1 million immigrants into US. Given this status they can apply for Social Security cards and receive credit and benefits upon meeting necessary rules of age, wage coverage, etc.. Likewise the military is taking non citizens with certain qualifications and that will give them access to benefits as well as citizenship. Totalization agreements allow workers to combine covered work here with work in the home country to qualify for retirement benefits.
        I don’t believe it is cut and dried that billions will be gifted to Social Security coffers by undocumented immigrants. As an aside, many asylum seekers are bringing children of all ages who will need education for years as well as well as health care so the benefits, if any, to Social Security will be offset by other costs.

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      2. It is a fact now and has been for years that undocumented residents contribute to social Security. It’s nothing new. They provide employers with fake SS numbers or alternate tax IDs. They paid sixteen billion a year as of a few years ago and also pay income taxes via withholding. Much of the current rhetoric about illegal immigrants these days is pure political propaganda. Of course, illegal entry needs to stop, we need a better system, but we also need these immigrants no matter how we label them.

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      3. We need legal immigrants. If such a benefit I wonder why they are not welcome in the blue states? What better way to balance the budget, stop the flow of people out to red states, and fill all those jobs. The folks in the south and southwest really are rubes, especially the Texans.

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      4. That parole policy is decades old and legal, and used by various, but the extent of its use is unusual. Those immigrants are then here legally at least for a certain period. What Americans don’t seem to understand that our population needs immigrants. In the US, the birth rate has been falling since the Great Recession, dropping almost 23 percent between 2007 and 2022.

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      5. “The reality is that the millions of illegal immigrants here provide a net economic gain in terms of the necessary work they perform, the purchases they make and the taxes they pay, including billions into the Social Security Trust with no ability to collect future benefits. ”
        So this is okay, but talk about having the high income earners pay 6.2% on all their compensation without increasing their future expected SS is considered a form of welfare? I’m confused!

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      6. Al, your stuff is getting a little incoherent. I think the constant Fox News exposure has made you see everything as some kind of eternal struggle between good and evil. But most of us in the center just want what is best for America. I am not willing to burn down our country just to make the “other side” look bad, like MAGA or the far left is willing to do. There is an immigration bill ready to pass right now but Trump will not allow it because it will hurt his election chances.

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      7. The proposal (immigration) by Biden was only done to enhance his election chances. The same proposal by Biden could have been made in 2021–2022–2033. Tell me why he did not make that proposal. NOW he wants to get tough!! What happened?

        Tell me in a rational manner why these illegals are not welcome in NYC–NJ–Chicago and on and on? Should they all stay in Eagle Pass? Once they showed up in your “hood” things began to change. Just tell me, why is that?

        Fox News–CNN–MSNBC–NPR–you see bias in one direction I suspect. I see bias in 4 directions.

        In 2020 the cities were burned–I sit here not far from stores that were liberated of their liquor, food stuffs, and electronics. Did you somehow miss cities from the east coast to west coast going through this nightmare? Just how angry were you? Were you worried about being called a racist if you spoke out about violence?

        What evidence do you have that cities are worried about the MAGA folks looting, stealing, and burning? Has this been happening in your city or town? If so where are the MAGA folks doing their damage? I saw a ton of them in Manchester, Laconia, and Keene, NH for the past many weeks and can you tell me the extent of looting, burning, and bodily harm ? Same in Iowa about 10-days ago–did you see flames in Iowa City?

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      8. Listen to biden…he boasts of creating these millions of jobs….is he lying?
        That along with the multitude if other claims that are untrue….

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  3. I always enjoy your insightful articles about social security and Medicare. Trump campaigning on paying off the national debt is like OJ hunting for the real killers. His proposed policies if implemented would accelerate both the national debt and inflation. The most viable way to make social security solvent is through increased immigration.

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