Is there any evidence of significant voting by non-citizens?

I can’t find any? Research hasn’t found any. One thing for sure, prior to 2020 it was not an issue, prior to illegal immigrant demonization it was not an issue. Prior to Donald Trump it was not an issue.

I ask myself, why would an illegal immigrant want to take the risk voting and exposing themselves to arrest? Why would a non-citizen want to vote, what do they have to gain?

Of course, there are those gullible folks who buy the propaganda that Democrats round up non-citizens to vote so they can cheat at elections. Imagine how many non-citizen voters it would take to change a federal election. Common sense folks.

A 2013 Kansas law required a passport, a birth certificate or other proof of citizenship to register, but it was struck down after a court found that around 31,000 eligible voters had been blocked, but only kept 28 Kansas residents from registering illegally.

All this is nothing but a red herring

The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act aims to change how voter eligibility is verified by shifting from the current system of “self-attestation” (swearing under penalty of perjury) to a strict documentary proof of citizenship (DPOC) requirement.

If the act becomes law, here is how the verification process would work:

1. Required Documentation

To register for a federal election, you would need to present specific documents that prove your citizenship. These include:

  • Primary Documents: A valid U.S. passport, a certified birth certificate, a Naturalization Certificate, or a Consular Report of Birth Abroad.
  • Secondary Options: A government-issued photo ID (like a driver’s license) only if it specifically indicates you are a U.S. citizen. Note that most current REAL IDs do not distinguish between citizens and lawfully present non-citizens.
  • Military & Tribal IDs: These are generally only accepted if they are paired with an official record showing a U.S. place of birth.

2. In-Person Registration

Because the act requires physical documentation, it would effectively:

  • End Mail-In Registration: You would likely have to appear in person at an election office to present your documents.
  • Impact Online Registration: Most current online systems are not equipped to verify these physical documents in real-time, potentially leading to the elimination of online registration in the 42 states that currently offer it.

3. Name Changes and Discrepancies

For many voters—particularly married women whose birth certificates don’t match their current legal name—the process would involve extra steps:

  1. Recent versions of the bill suggest that individuals with name changes might need to provide a marriage certificate or a signed affidavit to link their proof of identity to their proof of citizenship.

The SAVE Act will put a damper on voting by American citizens by making the process more onerous. Exactly what we don’t want. Only about 65% of eligible Americans actually voted in 2024 and that was a peak year.

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  1. “… only kept 28 Kansas residents from registering illegally …”

    So, how many illegals attempting to register, committing a felony, does it take to justify requiring proof of citizenship when registering to vote? Are you OK with some illegal immigrant, working and paying taxes through ID Theft, voting and effectively cancelling your vote? I’m not.

    You need to have an REAL ID card or a verified ID card to:

    • Board a plane,
    • Enter the Republican headquarters in Washington DC
    • Enter the Democrat headquarters in Washington, DC
    • Enter any federal building in the United States.

    So, if you have to have valid ID just to enter those locations or to board a commercial plane, what is the rationale for resisting the requirement to produce documentation of citizenship when registering to vote?

    It is not as if an individual who is a natural born citizen can’t get a birth certificate.

    Disagree? Just ask the parents of the tens of thousands of illegal immigrants and visitors who arranged to come to America, either illegally crossing the border or as a tourist to give birth and award their child the best possible birthday gift – U. S. citizenship. Approximately 300,000 babies are born annually to unauthorized immigrant mothers in the U.S., while another 20,000 to 40,000 babies are born annually to “birth tourists”—foreigners who enter on tourist visas specifically to give birth. These births represent roughly 9% of all U.S. births.

    Looks like 1 in 11 children born in America in 2025 gained citizenship even though neither parent was a citizen, nor naturalized, and generally, almost all of those parents were here illegally.

    How much do you want to bet that the parents of each and every one of these children has the child’s birth certificate, and that the certificate is not only prized but, copied multiple times and safely stored?

    For example, I have a distant cousin from Slovakia. She came over in the 1990’s on a student visa, lived for a time with my mom. She met a guy who had a green card, fell in love, got married, had two children, and overstayed her visa. The Obama administration deported her, along with her two children and her husband. She and her husband live in Bergen Norway. The two now adult children are both here in the states.

    My own mother is a naturalized citizen. She came over on the boat through Ellis Island in July 1925. I can guarantee you she never misplaced or lost her naturalization paperwork.

    I suppose there are folks 90, 100 years old, or older born before the great depression or WWI who maybe weren’t born in a hospital where birth would routinely be recorded.

    But, that’s not 31,000 Americans, let alone 31,000 people in Kansas.

    Did the Kansas law block anyone from voting, or only from registering, and only until they provided documentation of citizenship?

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